Krag 1898 antique status

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Krag 1898 antique status

Post by Bojangles » Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:05 am

I’m looking at a Krag1898 in the 147000 range. Is it possible that this could be antique as it has an 1898 cartouche even though the serial number corresponds to 1899? Of course, the cartouche could have been faked.
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Re: Kraft 1898 antique status

Post by butlersrangers » Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:16 am

Kraft 1898? .... my .... that's some old cheese!

U.S. Krag receiver, #147XXX (?), was made around November, 1898. (Before the January 1, 1899, cutoff.

Searching the internet indicates that U.S. Krags, with Serial Numbers below #152670, are regarded as "antique" by the BATF.

Lots of FFL dealers treat Krags as 'modern guns' and carry them on their 'books' as such. They will require that the sale go through another FFL. (This is stupid, but, true).

IMHO - It would be fair if all U.S. Krags were just considered 'antiques'.

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Re: Kraft 1898 antique status

Post by Ned Butts » Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:41 pm

butlersrangers wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:16 am
IMHO - It would be fair if all U.S. Krags were just considered 'antiques'.
Unfortunately that would require common sense which does not exist in goverment agencies as we all know! But that is a topic for another section, so stay on topic Ned!!

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Re: Kraft 1898 antique status

Post by Bojangles » Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:41 pm

For those interested, here is the rifle that led to the creation of this thread. I couldn’t even get a bid in it was bid up so fast and went for more than I was willing to pay.

https://live.amoskeagauction.com/m/lot- ... num%3D1055

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Re: Kraft 1898 antique status

Post by Ned Butts » Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:56 pm

That price is absolutely crazy!! Even if there are unknown (to us) details that is still high.

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Re: Kraft 1898 antique status

Post by Bojangles » Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:17 pm

Ned Butts wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:56 pm
That price is absolutely crazy!! Even if there are unknown (to us) details that is still high.
Agreed! That’s why I’m not the proud new owner. I will say it looks too good...

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Re: Kraft 1898 antique status

Post by Whig » Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:37 pm

Well, I agree- That's one of the nicest Krafts I've seen in a long time. Very clean, un-sanded stock with one of the deepest and crispest cartouches I've ever seen. Looks original and unrestored altogether.

But, with buyer's premium and shipping, $2700 is a bit on the high side.

I'm glad I'm not in the market for any more Krags (or Krafts!). Too high for me!

Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Kraft 1898 antique status

Post by indy650 » Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:26 pm

butlersrangers wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:16 am
Kraft 1898? .... my .... that's some old cheese!

U.S. Krag receiver, #147XXX (?), was made around November, 1898. (Before the January 1, 1899, cutoff.

Searching the internet indicates that U.S. Krags, with Serial Numbers below #152670, are regarded as "antique" by the BATF.

Lots of FFL dealers treat Krags as 'modern guns' and carry them on their 'books' as such. They will require that the sale go through another FFL. (This is stupid, but, true).

IMHO - It would be fair if all U.S. Krags were just considered 'antiques'.
I think dealers do this because some states rule that if the ammo is still produced then it isn't an antique which is total BS in my opinion. I think any gun 100 years or older should be antique and have no restrictions. Problem with that is then you have full autos and such so the gov't would never agree to it.

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